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assguardians2013-06-09 05:29 pm
chronologistics) wrote in assguardians2013-06-09 05:29 pm
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♥ one: post with your characters.
♠ two: respond to other people's characters with your characters.
♦ three: they tell you in detail what their character thinks of your character. TL;DR is encouraged; that's how this works.
♣ four; optional: discuss it with them if you want! Make a big chain of tl;dr if you're up to it.
♥ five: other people do the same thing to you! Maybe you even harvest your tl;dr to use in a CR chart later.
♠ six: keep checking back in so that no one is ever late!
(Shamelessly gakked from places.)
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Oh yeah, I think it's good they sound different. Though I admit it was weird for me when I threaded with my Dave and realized how distinct, especially since I hadn't made a conscious effort to distinguish between them. Which I think speaks volumes for how drastically they've diverged.
But whoops, I actually wasn't disagreeing with you on that point, re: Dave and what he's capable of. It was more Davesprite's view on it? Which is kind of self-depreciating and doesn't fully encompass the gravity of what he did, mandatory or not.
And three years on a meteor while watching everyone fall apart around you has that effect, I think. That's a lot of time for introspection, man. Davesprite meanwhile got to contemplate how long he had until he died.
When Dave dropped between Dirk and Davesprite, the fact he kept his back to Davesprite struck me as bizarrely poignant. Because Davesprite immediately caught that Dave was protecting him and that kind of sparked a weird panic, because isn't it supposed to be the other way around? There was a moment of you shouldn't have done that, but the gesture was...sentimental, almost? It is very much something they'd do for Rose, I think.
Dave is more likely to draw twin conclusions than Davesprite, though, just because Davesprite is so far from considering them equal in importance. Which is kind of ironic, because...older twin.
...I actually headcanon he's probably a good 10 months, 25 days older than Dave, thanks to all the time travel he did in the doomed timeline. Mostly because of that line he gave John about hopping around on red hot gears and i-beams for like a year. It's just weirdly precise after he says four months to Rose and, as a Time player, I don't think he'd exaggerate about that.
I also don't think he ever told Rose how much time traveling he did after a while.no subject
Not just diverged, but grew up, I think? At any rate, the divergence is what makes it easy for Dave to look at Davesprite as a separate person. Mine, at least, has a very layered way that which he looks upon doomed timelines. In his dream, Naminé had pointed out that he thinks about them a lot -- ironic considering he didn't talk to her about doomed timelines until after the dream event -- and I do headcanon that he did a lot as the years went by. It's occurred to him that he doesn't have the same memories as the dead Daves, and that further drives home that they're separate people? At least, that's the simplified nutshell version of it, it's a little more complex than that.
Oh god, that surprised me so much. At first I thought he'd just sit back and watch it unfold until things got too hairy, then he'd mosey on in there and break it up like some kind of ref, but then I actually started typing and what I ended up typing was not what I had planned. I hesitate to say he was angry, really, but he was definitely bristly because... stupidly protective.
(And sentimental. Shhh.)
And yes. Yes, yes, yes on the Rose front. God, he misses Rose so much.
..... I like this headcanon. I like this headcanon a lot. I originally thought 8 months and 12 days, but for some reason I like the 10 months and 25 days better.
Also agreed. Agreed so hard.no subject
I also think Davesprite is a huge exception to the doomed Dave clause. Like this is just personal headcanon and obviously I don't expect anyone to subscribe to things like this—it's just there to explain where I'm coming from—but regardless of how many doomed selves Dave had to pitch outside the two shown in canon, I don't think any of them lasted long. Most of them would have occurred after Jade entered, so the session was on a timer. It's very different from Aradia's experience where the troll session took almost a month, because the kids' lasted only a single day. And, weirdly, I think it's because Davesprite's situation was so exceptional that he became so important to Dave's success. If that makes sense, in the weird paradox space kind of way. So...he's really the only Dave who had a chance to grow and change and become a separate person. Though it's still probably disconcerting for Dave in the same way, since it still amounts to so many different people with different circumstances who he could have been, but fate dictated they stack up as corpses instead. It's a very physical representation of his choices.
tl;dr I agree and wrote all that for no reason at all.
Dave interfering kind of made me realize something really weird, though. Because Davesprite...doesn't want to strife with Dave or Dirk? Which is a fucking odd epiphany. I mean, Striders. I don't think he'd even want to strife with Bro, if we had one, because that feels like something from another lifetime. Which it technically was, because he was still Dave then.
It isn't so much he'd turn down a challenge, but it definitely isn't as prominent for him. He also has far less of a problem with absconding, as proven with Dirk. idk, with Dave, it's probably because fighting himself is just too fucking bizarre and maybe kind of pointless, especially when he's supposed to protect him. Dirk, maybe he's worried it'll make him conflate kidbro with Bro? He was so reluctant to engage Dirk in that thread and I couldn't figure out why; it was partially because of the mood and holding his ground had an inherent danger to it, but he even avoided it in his intro thread. Whereas Dave just fucking went for it. It might have to do with the way he works from the sidelines, rather than charging in from the front.
Rambles aimlessly, idefk.
Davesprite missed Rose a lot and then he had her here and now she's gone again and that makes him miss her even more. He is kind of pissed about that. And I totally picked 10 months and 25 days because arc numbers. The alternative was 11 months and 11 days, but I think the former fits better.
I have all this doomed timeline headcanon and I don't know where it came from.
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Yes. Yes to all of this. I agree with all of it. From Davesprite being the exception to the doomed Dave clause to the doomed timelines not lasting very long. Furthermore, yes to how it's a physical representation of his choices.
SEE: simplified nutshell version of things.No, I totally get this. The older my Dave gets the less inclined he is to go for a strife? I mean, he'll do it -- the first thing he did when he saw Dirk was make him chase him all over the place -- but there isn't as hair-triggery a response? I think it has to do with how much time has passed without Bro; the hero-worship starts to fade, and he starts to form his own ideas. Not that Bro is any less important (if anything, he's more important now?) but more that he's growing into his own.
It might just be me who plays him like that, I don't know.
Anyway, it makes sense. I swear to god, him just fucking going for it will get him killed one day.... Oh wait...
Because. Doomed timelines. Also Davesprite. Also Dave. Also just Homestuck in general?
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I fucking swear, if Davesprite dies because Dirk's death gets it into his head that he should just throw caution to the wind and throw down with the Condesce, I am going to facepalm so hard.
This is probably what's going to happen.But, god, yeah. Homestuck. Though I think the dream threads forced a lot of it into detail, because of the setups I used.